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Cold Feed Induction Kit Fitted

Discussion in 'Modifications' started by Lotuseater, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. Quartz

    Quartz Copenworld Regular

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    I'll have to give that a try when we get some decent weather. At the moment i'm just on the old intake with one of those white air filters. The engine does sound sweet over the 5k mark and I look forward to hearing more of that :)
     
  2. DaG

    DaG Copenworld Guru

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    Can't believe I missed this thread.

    One of the things that (slightly) disappoints with my 1.3 is the engine note. It sounds like a family hatch and at 70mph the engine sounds stretched. I might have a look at an induction kit, thanks for this thread lotuseater.:)
     
  3. Lotuseater

    Lotuseater Copenworld Regular

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    Pleasure, let us know how you get on? Will say that at 70mph you will not recognize the engine note!
     
  4. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    Why did you use a 60 to 76 mm then adaptor 76 to 70 mm? I'm assuming the filter outlet was 70 mm? as I looked on ebay at that seller and they have a 60 to 70 mm 90° bend. you could just have used 70 mm tubing?
     
  5. Lotuseater

    Lotuseater Copenworld Regular

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    Not sure they had a 60 to 70 tube when I bought mine. That said you are right that the filter intake is 70mm. The other thing I wanted to do was not to have rubber next to rubber, I wanted to have a metal piece between the elbow tube and the filter - so that when I came to tighten the jubilee clips it all fitted together properly, air tight - does that make sense?
    The other thing it gave me was the ability to adjust the angle to the inset to direct the filter to a position that filled the space left by removing the old air box. Things are quite tight under the bonnet, as you well know. The elbow tube also needs to follow a tight line so that it doesn't touch the underside of the bonnet. Having those extra joints just allowed me so much more flexibility, also the polished inset does look rather nice next to the carbon finish of the filter.

    Hope this helps? (also I'm sure there are many other ways to achieve the same result!)
     
  6. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    Yes, I spent an hour looking at your photos and measurements figuring how it all went together and also looking over ebay and places items to see how I could make up a system like yours of not exactly the same.

    I'm new to Copen ownership so although i know what you mean about tight on space, I've yet to study under the bonnet in detail yet.

    yes I know what you mean by rubber to rubber, and I'm not talking membership of a fetish club, but they just squash and deform as you tighten more. I thought that with a 70mm id filter and 70 mm id L bend tube I could try to get a short length of stainless steel tubing (2¾ inch/70 mm), maybe from exhaust place , to join the 2 and give then a firm surface to compress against. if tubing long enough (but still short) could have some play to move filter back or front to line up as best.

    May even be able to get a filter with 75/76 mm id and an L bend like you with 76 mm id and get 3 inch stainless steel tube. I've got both size options covered then.

    Is the inlet to the throttle body, where your reducer fits a full circle of 60 mm? or did the reducer need to be squashed or even stretch a bit to fit on? Not yet had things apart to know these things.
     
  7. Lotuseater

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    From memory the in take was about 56/57 mm so with the elbow at 60mm I had to tighten it a fair bit to close any gap.

    Hope this helps.
     
  8. trustafox

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    Yes should help thanks. I can give it a measure later on when I get chance to take her apart. For now too much work and dark wet or cold nights by time I get home.
     
  9. trustafox

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    Is the noise appreciably louder with the set up or just a bit? I don't want something too noisy. Thats why i thought the covered filter would reduce some of that suck noise you get from open filters, not just to get colder air in.
     
  10. Lotuseater

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    the noise is different, not loud in anyway! On tick over you can hear a gentle hum, only when you get the car over 3,000 rpm do you notice a different engine note, but then its not loud.
    Will say that you do need the cold air intake - otherwise the heat from the engine bay will take its toll.

    Regards.
     
  11. trustafox

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    oh yes, will deffo put a cold pipe on. Thats good to know that its not loud, just more exciting! :)

    What is your filter made of? can you take the case apart to get at the filter to clean?
     
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  12. Lotuseater

    Lotuseater Copenworld Regular

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    If you go the Ramair website, you can also find them on Ebay, all of info is there - sizes, make-up, cleaning etc.

    Regards.
     
  13. Lotuseater

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    Had the Copen off the road since before Christmas and Sunday was an opportunity to do a little bit of maintenance - the main task was to take remove and clean the filter in the indication kit.
    Once apart I noticed some cracks in the rubber housing around the intake, quick call this morning to Ramair, the manufacturer, and all sorted, Life Time warranty - will need to send them a photo of the part, new part to follow in the post.

    Now nice to deal with people that don't question, just honor their warranty.
     
  14. trustafox

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    will you show us a photo?
     
  15. Lotuseater

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    Aware I need to post a couple of photos, however for interest the replacement part arrived Friday - once opened all became clear!

    Original supplied part was 'Rubber', replacement part is 'Silicone' - Ramair have modified the materials used, so all being well this new piece shouldn't suffer as the original - NB sizes all the same, fits like a glove on to the induction housing, in fact fits better than the original.

    All very pleasing - here's to many miles of happy motoring.
     

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