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Discussion in 'Introductions' started by Guessonomics, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. Guessonomics

    Guessonomics Copenworld Newbie

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    1954 Pontiac Chieftain
    2003 Nissan Cube
    1970 VW Beetle Drag Car
    Well, after a long history of buying...erm...interesting cars, I finally have a little Japanese Kei Car safely tucked away in my garage. It occupies the space where my Beetle drag car sat until this morning, now gone to a new home with someone else responsible for trying to go as fast as possible without ending up upside down, backwards and on fire (been there, done that!)

    A brief spin around the block in the blue turbo minibeast earlier tells me that this is going to be fun :)
     
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  2. Guessonomics

    Guessonomics Copenworld Newbie

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    Hmmm...looks like I may have an early JDM Copen :) Kanji labels all over the car, non-OEM rear fog light switch and still has the clips for the flare in the passenger footwell. No sign of an ODB port either.

    Chassis number is 0001402!
     
  3. Khalid

    Khalid Copenworld Newbie

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    Hi.

    Welcome to the Club.

    Sounds like quite a change from your Beetle Drag. Copen's are very fun cars to drive and make people smile.

    The OBD port like most cars is under the drivers steering wheel (if its a right-hand side drive). It's difficult to feel, as you may need to get your head under there with a torch. I have a Scanguage II running off mine.

    Get some photo's up of your car.
     
  4. Guessonomics

    Guessonomics Copenworld Newbie

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    Cool - thanks! Found the OBD port, but it looks like it really is just an OBD port (JOBD rather than 'proper' OBDII) None of my handheld scan tools will link to it and my PC based system tells me it's JOBD with no promiscuous mode - just basic query and response. Not a big problem, but my plan to display useful info on a double DIN screen is a non-starter!

    Still, it looks like it came to me already modded, with a Half Way ECU and hybrid turbo, so I'm not complaining!

    I'm nipping over to my buddy's place to stick it on his dyno later. Should be interesting :)
     
  5. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    Hello and welcome! :D
    I hope you will take good care of your car, it will thank you with ridiculously good reliability ;)

    This seems to be too high of a number to be one of the "first" JDM copen, which came to Europe. Some pictures would be nice, though.
    The JDM copen had 47kW (64 metric HP) instead of 50kW (68 metric HP), if the paperwork says 47, it might be a JDM one.

    My copen has a regular OBDII interface, I can hook a scangauge to it without any problems. However, its a european model
     
  6. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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    mine Turbo has JDAL880K001000431 :D

    looks older..:) nobody under 431?:wasntme:
     
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  7. Guessonomics

    Guessonomics Copenworld Newbie

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    It certainly does! Is that the number stamped on the firewall? I only ask because it's a different format to anything on my car (firewall or chassis plate). Mine doesn't have standard 17 digit ISO VIN, only the Daihatsu chassis number (L880K0001402)

    I've had other Japanese cars that didn't have a VIN (eg. 2003 JDM Nissan Cube) but I'm just wondering if some cars came with VIN and some didn't.
     
  8. Guessonomics

    Guessonomics Copenworld Newbie

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    Not first: just early :)

    1,402 out of 50,000+ JDM cars seems pretty early to me!
     
  9. Number6

    Number6 Inactive User

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    KWP2000 - query / response over the K-Line. No CANBUS, the Copens predate that being a mandatory standard.
     
  10. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    Those which came to Europe were mostly not JDM, but made specifically for Europe.
    Only some of the very first cars used as press cars or used for type approval were original JDM. This happened around 2002-2003. Could be that yours is one of them, but that does not necessarily have to be the case :D
     
  11. Guessonomics

    Guessonomics Copenworld Newbie

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    That fits with the email reply I got from Daihatsu yesterday - it seems that mine was a JDM car that came to the UK from Japan in May 2003 and was registered by Daihatsu UK on the 1st of July for press/media loans until the end of the year. Daihatsu were the registered keeper right up to October 2010 when it was pushed out to a dealer for disposal.
     
  12. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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    mine was shipped with the first boat from japan with other 550 copens too..but still waiting some month near antwerpen for europe market..:)
     

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